Charles Cecil Bateman FRGS

  Notes:

Quite possibly he is Charles CECIL Bateman as someone of that name born in Q4 1875 in Cookham - this later confirmed by Bateman research. Which also gave precise birthdate and occupation as 'Cape Government Land Surveyor, S.Africa'.

Bateman Research; Left Bedford Modern School to join the survey class at St Andrews College, Grahamstown, SA (also Anthony Bateman's college). Anthony also says ".....where my father's maternal uncle (Prof Ernest Schwartz) was a professor of Geology. My father never knew that the Bateman in the old group photos in our drill hall was his cousin. He was a land surveyor in Rhodesia at the turn of the century and became a white hunter. He died a bachelor, perhaps in the 1950s/60s. St Andrews lists him as a Lieut in WWI, with no regiment, corps or service. He is not listed in the British, SA or Rhodesian forces however. Neither the Royal Geographic Society nor either of his schools have more info on him than I have. "

1881 Census; Living, aged 5, at Antony Parish, Cornwall with parents, brother and 2 servants.

1891 Census; Living, aged 15, at 61 Waldeck(?) Ave, Bedford and Kempston, Beds with mother, 2 siblings and servant. This gives middle initial (not shown in '81).

1901 Census; Is visitor at house of Dr Christopher St J Wright and Agnes Wright (nee Bateman who is his fathers 1/2 sister) in Felsted, Essex. Occupation; Cape Government Land Suryevor.

1911 Census from Wendy; Living as visitor (age 35) at Royal Hotel, Cheltenham High St. FRGS Engineer Surveying S Africa

From Wendy H; was elected Fellow of the Royal Geographical Society on Tuesday December 21 1910 and this was reported in the Times of the next day.
and
Times Feb 28 1912 : Another March wedding will be that of Mr C Cecil Bateman, elder son of Colonel Bateman, late 1st Battalion (31st) East Surrey Regiment and Miss Lilian Gibson, youngest daughter of Captain Gibson of Glen Druid, Shankhill Co.Dublin, and a niece of Lord Ashbourne. Whether this marriage actually happened remains to be seen - it's not in the Free BMD Index, but could have been in Ireland.

1921 Census; living (aged 45y,8m) as (married) 'visitor' (not son!) at 36 Ashworth Mansions, Paddington W9, home of widowed mother Clara Bateman. Occupation; Farmer in Transvaal, S.Africa.

From Philip/Anthony Bateman; Found in National Archives of South Africa; 1923 RESTITUTION OF CONJUGAL RIGHTS. LILIAN MAY BATEMAN (BORN GIBSON) VERSUS CHARLES CECIL. This proves Bateman was married to Gibson ....... but presumably divorced soon after this date.

From Anthony; His address on his mother's death cert on 15 Sept 1931 is 126 Fellows Rd, NW8.

From Wendy; Times of March 27 1954: Bateman on March 21 1954 suddenly at St Mary's Hospital, Southsea Charles Cecil Bateman, Government Surveyor of Rhodesia, South Africa elder son of the late Col H W Bateman 31st E Surrey Regiment and Mrs Bateman and great grandson of Dr & Mrs Bagnall of Tushingham Hall, Cheshire

References to him in "Transvaal Law Reports By Transvaal (Colony). Supreme Court, Transvaal Colony. Witwatersrand High Court" viz ; ".... Account the private practice of the said firm as from the thirty-first day of March, 1907, and the said Charles Cecil Bateman shall retain and carry on for his own sole benefit and account the balance of the general survey section. It seems to be that ......." and "The language is very strong, and it will be well to read the exact terms of the award: 'The said Charles Cecil Bateman shall not be at liberty without the written consent of the said Frederick Tylden Baldwin to practise as a surveyor either by ......".

From Anthony; "from the register of St Andrew's College, Grahamstown (my old school, but CCB
did a year in the post-matric Survey class)." ; Entered July; Bateman, Charles Cecil, son of Col. W.H. - , A.P.D. ; Left June 1897; Day. Sur. Survey Cert. '97 ; Govt. Surveyor, Cape '99, Rhodesia '00, Tvaal '02; Land Surveyor for B.S.A. Co. and in Tvaal; Mine Surveys and mining in T'vaal and Cornwall; prospector and hunter in E.Africa; Great war Lt.; Railway Survey Scotland '21-'22; Irrigation and Land Drainage Surveys; F.R.G.S. '10; Member Railway Facilities Advisory Committee for W.Sussex '36; Local representative on Railway Panel; Bognor Regis, Sussex, England, '39; c/o Midland Bank Ltd., 25 Bedford Row, London W.C.1, Eng., '44.

Wendy confirms this is NOT our Charles; There is a Charles C Bateman listed as 'Civilian War dead' buried at Finsbury, died May 11 1941. Wendy found ; death for Charles Bateman killed in blitz. Is on war graves sites under civilian casualties. He was aged 69 and killed along with (presumably) his wife Alice aged 58. Bomb fell on their house 11 Holford Square Kings Cross. (Finsbury) .

Charles married Lilian Gibson, daughter of Capt. Gibson and Unknown, in Mar 1912.